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In addition, whenever principles other than freedom are introduced, we move away from the spirit of an existential ethics. I love that answer because it just makes me think, I always tell my students, like, “You gotta write all the poems.”. You know, maybe I should write “One Grandson Told Me” now. And I’ve loved her poems. But neither one really did. Naomi Shihab Nye: —It’s never I want to paint. who dragged his leg. Danez Smith: And I always tell them, I’m like, “You gotta write all of it,” right? And that was a wound to him. Page 40 40 ANSWERS TO PRACTICAL QUESTIONS 42. So that’s one of my secret—. What is that like? I see myself kind of getting a little bit more artful and articulate and maybe a little bit stranger, because I think it feels like I’m not using language as much anymore. "Poetry without music may be beautiful, but music gives poetry wings and elevates it into song. That such a great interview, talking about tininess and tiny things. He was so curious about things. In the middle of the night, he woke up and—he calls me Momo—and he said, “Momo?” And I said, “Yes?” He said, “I love you more than all my toys!”. My parents were grammar hounds. One example is a painting of a sculpture: the painting is "telling the story of" the sculpture, and so becoming a storyteller, as well as a story (work of art) itself. You can sit down in three minutes, read a poem, and in two minutes, read it again. Is like, that frustration means, I think, you have to find the many doors and windows into it, right. That seems incredible to me. Wayward Son (Spanish Edition) ... Poetry. Why didn’t you go find other Arabs to be with?” Anyway, I learned hopefulness from him, I would say. Danez Smith: No, Castaway is the most recent. Franny Choi: I would say teaching. Other examples of the genre from the nineteenth century include Michael Field's 1892 volume Sight and Song, which contains only ekphrastic poetry; Algernon Charles Swinburne's poem "Before the Mirror", which ekphrasises James Abbott McNeill Whistler's Symphony in White, No. Instances of ekphrasis in 19th century literature can be found in the works of such influential figures as Spanish novelist Benito Pérez Galdós, French poet, painter and novelist Théophile Gautier, Norwegian playwright Henrik Ibsen, and Russian novelist Fyodor Dostoyevsky. Notional ekphrasis may describe mental processes such as dreams, thoughts and whimsies of the imagination. So you get in the habit of reading those. I liked listening, that’s how it felt to listen to you and Cam. I’m the sidekick. And like, what a better last episode of the season. Why does a distant light, in the night, seem like a star! She would say, like, “They wouldn’t do that if they knew who we were.” But the sad thing is, come on, use your imaginations, people, you know your own grandmas, you don’t have to know mine. According to the Poetry Foundation, "an ekphrastic poem is a vivid description of a scene or, more commonly, a work of art. Danez Smith: Seven-year-old Danez is like, “Nigga, what? The ekphrasic writings of the lawyer turned bishop Asterius of Amasea (fl. Naomi Shihab Nye: Oh, yeah. (LAUGHS) Two, it’s a little nasty, and I also like that. Yeah, it’s a huge deal! Writers on art for a wider audience produced many descriptions with great literary as well as art historical merit; in English John Ruskin, both the most important journalistic critic and popularizer of historic art of his day, and Walter Pater, above all for his famous evocation of the Mona Lisa, are among the most notable. The legendary poet brings a fistful of sunshine to her conversation with Franny and Danez about learning from her four year-old grandson, holding onto hope and wonder, the magic and utility of child brain, creating welcoming poems, and so much more. Danez Smith: Well, that’s that welcoming thing in the poems, too, right? (LAUGHS), Naomi Shihab Nye: Yeah, yeah. That was disturbing to me as a child. Danez Smith: But I think another moment that I really loved, personally, when I was thinking back on 2020 and even what I’ve read this year and truly loved, and so many of our guests released such brilliant books, but like I was sitting with Aricka Foreman’s book Salt Body Shimmer for a little bit the other day. Too practiced at talking ourselves out of it. Franny Choi: Wow, you have—you have written so many books. I feel like it allows the psyche to travel and meet—. I don’t know, I’m just jabbering now. At the end of this decade, known as 2020. You know, you get in these habits of, people will ask you to read certain things or you feel certain poems are befrienders, that people respond to them easily. And so, I feel insulted on behalf of Jerusalem. to you as if they were intelligent, but if you ask them anything Rossetti also ekphrasised a number of paintings by other artists, generally from the Italian Renaissance, such as Leonardo da Vinci's Virgin of the Rocks.. Franny Choi: Best place to read a book in San Antonio. That is a poem. I always got that “RO” written on my papers in college. Can you stop feeling so compulsive, please? I mean, I’m just so amazed that we have been able to keep making this show from the comfort of our homes. And everyone did such an amazing job. Like digging in the ground right now in Texas, where I live, in San Antonio, Texas. Franny Choi: As somebody who has read your poems for a while, that makes complete sense. Just he said, “I just really want to tell you, I’ve thought about that poem all these years.” That was so touching to me. It’s ridiculous. Naomi Shihab Nye: I would love to. We don’t like it. But usually I’m, you know, just like a kid is interested in what’s trying to work itself out of the page, new stuff. Or how do they feed one another? And I do think that’s really hard in the United States these days, because I could look at the daily news and say, “What the hell is going on here? And there are so many benches and stone walls and little grassy slopes and wild places where you could take a book and read it. How dare you act as if Israel has been just in its dealings, negotiations, navigations with this huge group of people who have been suffering for more than 70 years? If my mother heard someone on television misusing grammar, she would somehow track down the address of that program and write them a letter and demand that they work on their grammar skills. Valerie Robillard and Els Jongeneel (eds. That’s what I do. Naomi Shihab Nye: That was yummy. Through the telling of the scenes on the cloak, Apollonios relates the scenes on the cloak as virtues and morals that should be upheld by the Roman people, and that Jason should learn to live by. Danez Smith: Shout-out, legend Paige Lewis. Franny Choi: (LAUGHS) I think that that fight might have been a little bit rigged. Merwin. Danez Smith: Two. You gotta write it multiple times, so that way you can say it just the way it needs to be said one time and another time you can delight, maybe, in the strangeness and in the weirdness or in another corner of what the poem is doing. Franny Choi: It was such an interesting thing to move in my reading this week between these two collections, which are in some ways so different. I know these digital semesters have been rough for those of us who didn’t necessarily plan or opt for that type of education. Well, he was a question asker. Danez Smith: I feel like I gotta be a good parent, too. You know? I miss her. But your question was way better than my answer. So like, work in translation or work of a different era. And so, I feel like young people are at the center of both of these collections. And you know, I feel duty bound to remain hopeful for them. In the 20th century, Roger Zelazny's "24 Views of Mt. The shield of Achilles is described by Homer in a famous example of ekphrastic poetry, used to depict events that have occurred in the past and events that will occur in the future. Or separation or exile or … I used to love, as so many people did, the writer Grace Paley, who happened to be Jewish, and who was a real activist for connection among peoples. And so, you know, I’m not talking to strangers, not reading random things all around the city, you know, like I’m so used to traveling, too, and that I think, there’s so much language and talking in that. Danez Smith: That’s my secret want. Danez Smith: Naomi—or Miss Naomi, I should say—. (LAUGHS) You know? Shares of Poshmark Inc. more than doubled in their debut trading in the public markets Thursday, a testament to the strength of the online marketplace for second-hand goods even during a pandemic. Hosted by poets Danez Smith and Franny Choi, produced by Daniel Kisslinger, and presented by the Poetry Foundation and Postloudness. So there could be even yet another generation in there somewhere. Is there an age or a time or a happening that you see language sort of starting to die in kids? You know, I often don’t dive into my own older books unless someone brings something up. Franny Choi: Hmm. That sense as a young child that we should be curious. In the Odyssey, there is also a scene where Odysseus, disguised as a beggar, must prove to his wife, Penelope, that he has proof that Odysseus is still alive. , The cloak and its depicted events lend more to the story than a simple description; in true ekphrasis fashion it not only compares Jason to future heroes such as Achilles and Odysseus, but also provides a type of foreshadowing. Like writers such as Ralph Waldo Emerson, Henry David Thoreau, and Walt Whitman, she experimented with expression in order to free it from conventional restraints. Franny Choi: Right. It’s the most insatiable bush. It also contains multiple images of battles and occurrences of manslaughter. Franny Choi: And it’s so beautiful. You can’t use the time excuse, because you do have that time.  This scene is almost identical to Thetis, the mother of Achilles, asking Hephaestus to create her son new weapons and armor for the battle of Troy. Naomi Shihab Nye: Or, just yesterday, a friend was writing me from Honolulu and he had a bad experience with his car this week. Jason, by donning the cloak, can be seen as a figure who would rather resort to coercion, making him a parallel to Odysseus, who uses schemes and lies to complete his voyage back to Ithaca. We need to meet.” So he was always kind of upbeat about human contact, you know. Well, lucky recipients. Shout-out to my students. Naomi Shihab Nye: And that makes me so happy. Using ekphrasis to teach literature can be done through the use of higher order thinking skills such as distinguishing different perspectives, interpreting, inferring, sequencing, compare and contrast and evaluating. It is a vivid, often dramatic, verbal description of a visual work of art, either real or imagined. (LAUGHS). I wondered, maybe like, what do you think that you inherited from that legacy of reportage and maybe what’s the difference between that and the writing that you do, or the kind of writing you want to make? Naomi Shihab Nye: When you stay home all the time, you can do stuff. The Renaissance and Baroque periods made much use of ekphrasis. He would sell his soul so as to have the portrait age rather than himself. In the Middle Ages, ekphrasis was less often practiced, especially as regards real objects, and historians of medieval art have complained that the accounts of monastic chronicles recording now vanished art concentrate on objects made from valuable materials or with the status of relics, and rarely give more than the cost and weight of objects, and perhaps a mention of the subject matter of the iconography. Yeah. Danez Smith: You were mentioning, just like the intimacy within, especially within political work. Wilde had previously experimented with employing portraits in his written work, as in The Portrait of Mr. W. H. (1889). Franny Choi: Alright, Danez, you want to start us off? Romance. Naomi Shihab Nye: Ooh, I would say tuna fish. Danez Smith: I don’t know, I’m really, you know, kind of humbled after all the nice things she said, and after all the nice things she like, is. He wasn’t cynical. Like that’s so—that would be so impressive. He was also concerned in journalism with what was left out of the story. He wasn’t even too ironic. Maybe you should ask the question again. Naomi Shihab Nye: Yes, I think. Oh, well, I can’t really work on my writing until I wash those dishes and clean up the joint. (LAUGHS). They both were obsessed with proper grammar. Before he began creating the shield and armor, Hephaestus was forging 20 golden tripods for his own hall, and in the scene on Jason's cloak we see the Cyclops performing the last step of creating the thunderbolts for Zeus.. Naomi Shihab Nye: But there are some new ones. It’s a door now. How dare you presume that you know what Palestinian life is like? Naomi Shihab Nye: We keep stirring up that compost of metaphor, inside possibility, inside words, inside our heads, our dreams. There are a number of examples of ekphrasis in music, of which the best known is probably Pictures at an Exhibition, a suite in ten movements (plus a recurring, varied Promenade) composed for piano by the Russian composer Modest Mussorgsky in 1874, and then very popular in various arrangements for orchestra. Franny Choi: Last one is best of your own book titles. And I don’t think I could say middle school right now. Naomi Shihab Nye: Oooo. There are repeated instances of notional ekphrasis of the deteriorating figure in the painting throughout the novel, although these are often partial, leaving much of the portrait's imagery to the imagination. [source? It’s really cool. How are you doing, girl? “What can we plant today?” And he notices everything about—you know, I moved a plant last week from the front bed to the back bed because it didn’t seem happy in the front. George Yule Ghayda W Saifi. Ibsen's last work When We Dead Awaken also contains examples of ekphrasis as the play's protagonist, Arnold Rubek, is a sculptor who several times throughout the play describes his masterpiece "Resurrection Day" at length and in the many different forms the sculpture took throughout the stages of its creation. You can’t just keep being so dismissive of the reality of American democracy, or government in power.” I keep wanting to get away from whatever kind of, “ooo disappointment,” “I lost the election.” I mean, come on, let’s buckle up. Why do you look sad?” The kid is straight to the heart. Franny Choi: Your most—well, I guess not your most recent collection. And I’ll just read you two lines from it: “One window is enough for me, a window onto the moment of awareness and seeing in silence.”. Thank you for wanting me to come! Naomi Shihab Nye: So that’s moving me. Because you know what it feels like to be oppressed. We really require a little more of our time with beauty, beauty of language, creative enterprise, creative joy and discovery. Forward the Foundation. (LAUGHING) I’m just in—im just in—in kindness mode. Thank you to you, listeners, for staying with us through a whole fourth season. That’s how I pronounce it, yeah. they go on telling you just the same thing forever".. Naomi Shihab Nye: Without a doubt, I’m calling it for the kid! Brodsky was born into a Russian Jewish family in Leningrad.He was a descendant of a prominent and ancient rabbinic family, Schorr (Shor). Naomi Shihab Nye: Well, no, Everything Comes Next is now even more recent. You know, what difference does power and money really make in the big picture? On his arm, the tattoo of a skinny blue moon. Let’s go. Danez Smith: Love a river walk. Danez Smith: I feel like a, you know, kind of giddy, you know? Naomi Shihab Nye: From all the stuff they used to do. which makes it truly correspond to painting. I’ve been like yeah, really grateful to my family, to the women in my family. He likes digging more than I do. Naomi Shihab Nye: Yeah, I don’t think I ever read that out loud. We all said, No! And Grace used to say that she looked at politics as simply the way human beings treat one another. Danez Smith: Hi, Franny. So, welcome to VS. (LAUGHS).  Much like other ekphrastic poetry, it depicts a clear catalogue of events: There is speculation as to why Virgil depicted certain events, while completely avoiding others such as Julius Caesar's conquest of Gaul. Artists began to use their own literary and artistic genre of art to work and reflect on another art to illuminate what the eye might not see in the original, to elevate it and possibly even surpass it. Naomi Shihab Nye: Oh, gin and tonic, thank you. I learned very young that it was much easier to be hopeful than not. Naomi Shihab Nye: And I thought, that’s so beautiful! And I have never had any interest in writing poems that would perplex people too much because life does that enough with us. So sometimes I’m like, my opportunity to get it off is this email. And we hope that listening to it has been something like that for you, and just glad that you have stuck it out with us. She’s younger than my son is, so she would be almost in the grandchild era. Danez Smith: Feels like we’ve gotten to talk to like, some heroes of kindness this season, you know? We were out in the yard and somehow ghosts came up because it was a little foggy. Look at ’em, look at ’em. Naomi Shihab Nye: Yeah, it’s now. So I hope that little me would feel a little freer reading the stuff now. Danez Smith: It’s a book you couldn’t have written in anybody else’s voice, almost. I’m a ageist asshole right now! “Like a mountain when you sit on it.” I need…. Yeah, that’s the magic part of it. That is one of my many worst habits. I mean, if we’re lucky enough to have a tiny bit of earth, even one pot plant, spending time with that has a really different feeling, I think. And I sometimes think about the part of my brain that’s responding to the news every day, and then the part that’s responding to the poems I’m reading. Danez Smith: But you’ve done it in a way that I think I’ve never read, especially thinking about your work about Palestine and Palestinians, and that conflict. In the evening it indicates a clearing away when the temperature is falling, and hence shows a determination to dryness. Naomi Shihab Nye: That they liked that sense of multiplicity here. Danez Smith: So now we’ve come to our oldest and most storied game on this show, This versus That. And there’s a lot of other episodes that you can check out. Franny Choi: And they’re the editor in chief of Quarantine Vogue, Danez Smith. Whole books?”, Danez Smith: Seven-year-old Danez is just proud to be here, man. Thank y’all so much. Like three different places, such different places in the world that have this one thing in common. I’m just thinking about—, Danez Smith: I’m thinking about “One Boy Told Me,” the poem where you take…. As bedness after bedness shares the ideal form and template of all creation of beds, and each bedness is associated with another ad infinitum, it is called an "infinite regress of forms". It’s like such an incredible honor and gift. Virgil clearly outlined the shield chronologically, but scholars argue that the events on the shield are meant to reflect certain Roman values that would have been of high importance to the Roman people and to the Emperor. Issue sticky tape, allow joins to be made, and add a two-minute time penalty for each join in the ring. Danez Smith: Yeah, so that’s one of my secret wants is to do like a cross the country train trip. Franny Choi: Especially people who are writing under such intense state suppression and like the wildness of that. How can you treat anyone that way? The fullest example of ekphrasis in antiquity can be found in Philostratus of Lemnos' Eikones which describes 64 pictures in a Neapolitan villa.  Rachmaninoff's symphonic poem Isle of the Dead is a musical evocation of Böcklin's painting of the same name. Naomi Shihab Nye: What a beautiful line. Franny Choi: Uhm yeah. Franny Choi: Best plant in your garden right now. I’m not so wild about digging as he is. You know, it’s 3:00PM, the sun is setting, I’m getting nostalgic. At one point in the novel, Nastasya, too, describes a painting of Christ, her own imaginary work that portrays Christ with a child, an image which naturally evokes comparison between the image of the dead Christ. Your thoughts start flowing a different way. And just the little things that he says all the time. He commences with the original form of a bed, one of a variety of ways a bed may have been constructed by a craftsman and compares that form with an ideal form of a bed, of a perfect archetype or image in the form of which beds ought to be made, in short, the epitome of bedness. In contrast, his earlier poem "Musée des Beaux Arts" describes a particular real and very famous painting, Landscape with the Fall of Icarus, thought until recently to be by rather than after Pieter Brueghel the Elder, which is also described in the poem by William Carlos Williams "Landscape with the Fall of Icarus". Naomi Shihab Nye: It’s got that lull. RO. I’ve found myself reading the great Palestinian Mahmoud Darwish with kind of a different sense of comprehension of his many, many decades of exile, because I think so many people in the world feel kind of just in exile from normalcy, from their regular lives. He started it as a radio journalist, as a young man in Jerusalem, and then became a newspaper journalist. When I hear about forgotten people, I think, I knew the man down the alley by the market. Franny Choi: You also put it into scare quotes. ), This page was last edited on 21 December 2020, at 07:28. So we’re so excited to get to share this interview with Naomi Shihab Nye. We should always be on the lookout for something interesting and to learn more about everything. And that used to fascinate me, like, he would put a newspaper on my breakfast place at the table and say, “There are three grammatical errors on this page. Franny Choi: You know what else I loved was listening to the conversation that you had with Michael Lee. Naomi Shihab Nye: More than a long time. The entire poem is a description of a piece of pottery that the narrator finds immensely evocative. Which I hope is what we’re also doing in our country for kids growing up now. This is an on-air, live realization that is happening right now, but that makes me love my first book a little better, you know. Naomi Shihab Nye: And don’t you think, I think it’s very gracious of both of you not to bring up the humorous detail that I am for the Poetry Foundation, Young People’s Poet Laureate. For example, most people don’t think that freedom is more important than justice or life itself. It’s so messed up! Danez Smith: (LAUGHING) It’s an honor just to be reading. Adam @Tom, the title makes the book sound more melodramatic than it really is. And you used the word “transfer.” I did write a book called Transfer for my father after he died, which is also, I would say, my other most political book, in some way. I need to go see her today, actually. I loved your interview with Paige Lewis. In Ibsen's 1888 work The Lady from the Sea, the first act begins with the description of a painting of a mermaid dying on the shore and is followed by a description of a sculpture that depicts a woman having a nightmare of an ex-lover returning to her. Franny Choi: It was really cool. NOTE: VS is going to be taking its customary break between seasons, but will be returning for a fifth season next year. “We’re pretty observant, more than some, less than others. And then I’ve been told by people who meet her that if they bring her a copy of the book, she signs it for them. And I wanted to honor as well as continue this unfinished story that my father and grandmother were part of, both of them hoping to see a real turn for the better before they died. And that’s one thing I think attracted my father and mother here. It is the same with written words; they seem to talk Thank you, United States journalists, world journalists, for all the insight you have given us into the madness of the years we have been living through. Naomi Shihab Nye: That’s wonderful. Ask people to do the exercise in teams of three rather than pairs, which increases the brain-power available, but also the potential for confusion, and also the size of the paper ring necessary to fit over three people rather than two. Naomi Shihab Nye: I don’t eat meat, but I’m sorry, tuna. Naomi Shihab Nye: Well, thank you for your comments. Danez Smith: But no, they’re so good, and you know. Naomi Shihab Nye: You know, one thing I’ve determined during our conversation is, I wish I were on a train with both of you and we were just going, and we had some little food sacks and we could share what was in our food sacks and drink that ice cold water and do this and that, quizzes as we passed different landscapes. Any of them. Shout-out to the students in English 288. Franny Choi: It’s an honor just to be reading. As Dorian engages in a debauched life, the gradual deterioration of the portrait becomes a mirror of his soul. Naomi, give me the best age of childhood. Naomi Shihab Nye: I guess we’re forever in a process of figuring that out. Okay. On both sides of the coin, students and teachers. Naomi Shihab Nye: I mean, our city is so great, being 63 percent or more Latinx. So I don’t know. A third bedness, too, may share the ideal form. ISSN Online: 1891-5760 ISSN Print: 1891-5752. Franny Choi: Best scent of soap or candle. That’s so cool that you think so! Naomi Shihab Nye: And you resort to them as often as needed. They ask a question about an older poem, and I barely even remember the poem. The Aeneid is an epic that was written by Virgil during the reign of Augustus, the first Emperor of Rome. Tamar Yacobi, "The Ekphrastic Figure of Speech," in Martin Heusser et al. 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